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Goggomobil TL

Also known as Goggomobil Transporter, TL-250, TL-300, TL-400

The West German post office needed something small to take over from its three-wheeled Tempos. Glas built it a micro van on the Goggomobil: the engine in the tail, a box on the back, and cab doors that slide, so the driver could get out in a narrow street.

Yellow post-office van with a sliding cab door open, another yellow van behind in a hall
A yellow Deutsche Bundespost Goggomobil TL Transporter with its sliding door open, Heusenstamm, 2011.Photo: Urmelbeauftragter, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons

At a glance

The spec plate

Goggomobil TL

TL-250, TL-300, TL-400 · Dingolfing

Built
1957–⁠1965Shown at the IFMA in autumn 1956
Country
West GermanyDingolfing, Bavaria
Maker
Hans Glas GmbHTaken over by BMW from 10 November 1966, after the TL had ended
Engine
245 cc to 398 cc Glas two-stroke twinsFan-cooled, across the tail; the TL-250, TL-300 and TL-400
Power
13.6 to 20 hpTL-250 13.6 hp (9.9 kW) or 14 hp; TL-400 18.5 hp (13.5 kW) or 20 hp, by source
Length
2,910 mm1,316 mm wide, 1,695 mm high
Weight
460 kgKerb weight, by Secret Classics
Seats
2Driver and one passenger, in a forward cab
Wheels
4Engine and drive at the back, the cab over the front wheels
Production
3,6673,665 in other sources; about 2,000 went to the Bundespost
Top speed
65km/h65 km/h75 km/h for the TL-400

How big is it?

True proportion

2.91 m

It is 60 mm shorter than a Fiat 500, about 1.7 adults laid end to end.

  • 1.32 m wide
  • 460 kg: about six adults
  • Two seats over the front wheels, the engine in the tail
Drawn at true proportion. The track is 3.6 metres long; the adult stands at the same scale. The Peel P50 is the smallest production car, on every page for comparison.

The story

History

Hans Glas GmbH of Dingolfing made farm machinery before it made the Goggo scooter, and in 1955 it launched the Goggomobil T250 saloon.source 1 The TL was built on the same platform, with the engine in the tail and swing axles at each corner.source 1source 2 It was made largely for the Deutsche Bundespost. The post office had been using three-wheeled Tempo vans, and RM Auctions’ catalogue names the small one, the Tempo Boy, as the model whose end left it needing something new; the Glas van was the only small vehicle that offered a quarter-ton payload.source 3source 4 English Wikipedia says the Transporter was built largely at the Bundespost’s request.source 2

Deutsche Bundespost, the German post office, had been using three-wheel Tempo delivery vans. When the Tempo went out of production, a new vehicle was required.

RM Auctions, catalogue of the Bruce Weiner Microcar Museum sale, lot 269, February 2013.source 5

It was shown at the IFMA, the two-wheeler and small-car show in Frankfurt, in the autumn of 1956. auto motor und sport reported a Goggomobil Transporter with sliding doors for the Bundespost there, at the same show as Getrag’s “Selectromat” preselector gearbox.source 6source 2source 7 Production began in 1957, and in its fourth issue of 1958 the magazine reported the Transporter in series production, with the first 100 delivered to the post office.source 1source 2source 8 One RM catalogue says the Bundespost took about 2,000 in 1956. It cannot have: the van was only being shown that year.source 3source 2source 8

Doors that slide

It is the forward cab that makes the TL look unlike the saloon. Driver and passenger sit over the front wheels, with the load space behind them and the fan-cooled two-stroke twin under its rear end.source 1source 2 Each side of the cab has a sliding door, chosen so that the driver could get in and out in narrow streets and tight parking places, which was new on so small a commercial vehicle.source 6source 2 At the back of the van were twin doors; the pick-up had a tailgate, and could carry a tarpaulin or a short canopy.source 6source 2source 9 To keep the load floor clear, the fuel tank went under the driver’s seat, and the floor itself was made of wooden slats.source 3

There were three engines, of 250, 300 and 400 cc, as in the saloons, but with lower gearing, marked “L”.source 3source 6 The smallest needed only the old class 4 licence.source 1source 6 With about 14 hp and a top speed near 65 km/h (40 mph), the TL-250 was a town and village delivery vehicle, as Secret Classics puts it; the TL-400 reached about 75 km/h (47 mph).source 6 Later vans used the 400 cc engine with the lower ratios.source 4 The four-speed gearbox had no synchromesh; on the saloon it could be shifted like a motorcycle’s, without double-declutching.source 1 The whole van is 2,910 mm (115 in) long, 1,316 mm (52 in) wide and 1,695 mm (67 in) high, and weighs 460 kg (1,014 lb).source 2source 6 How much it could carry is less clear: Secret Classics says 440 kg, RM Auctions about 250 kg (550 lb).source 6source 3 No period road test has been found.

Yellow vans and others

About 2,000 went to the post office, in Bundespost yellow; English Wikipedia puts it at more than 2,000 between October 1957 and November 1965.source 1source 2 The rest went to tradespeople and to towns, which used them as service vehicles and for street cleaning and snow clearing, and some were sold in the United States through the Continental Car Combine.source 9source 6source 1 In all, 3,667 were built.source 1source 6source 2

Production stopped in 1965, and no reason for it has been found. The Goggomobil saloon and coupé went on: BMW took Glas over with effect from 10 November 1966 and built them until 30 June 1969.source 1

Red panel van with modern courier lettering parked by a brick wall in an old depot
A TL van in red, with a modern courier’s lettering, in the old depot of the Classic Remise in Berlin in 2020.Photo: Neuköllner, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Orange pick-up with red and white striped bumper ends, seen from the front in a show hall
An orange 1962 TL-400 pick-up with hazard-striped bumpers, at a show.Photo: Wleiter, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Grey van with two occupants driving towards the camera, spectators beside the road
A grey TL van on the road at a Goggomobil meeting in 2005.Photo: Lothar Spurzem, CC BY-SA 2.0 de, via Wikimedia Commons

Tempo Boy

1950–⁠1956 · a record on this page

Little is recorded about the Boy, the small Tempo that, by RM Auctions’ account, the TL replaced at the post office.source 3 From 1950 Tempo built it in Hamburg-Harburg beside the Hanseat, which it resembled, as a smaller sister.source 10 It had a single-cylinder engine of 197 cc, or 250 cc at extra cost; either size could be driven on the class IV licence, which covered vehicles of up to 250 cc. It cost DM 2,390 against DM 3,300 for the Hanseat pick-up, and with its full payload of 420 kg (926 lb) it reached 40 km/h (25 mph).source 10 German Wikipedia’s model table counts 5,950 built from 1950 to 1956.source 10

The trade journal ATZ judged in 1952 that three-wheeled vans of about 60 km/h were useful, but that the trend was moving to four wheels.source 10 When the Boy went out of production, by RM Auctions’ account, the Bundespost turned to the four-wheeled Goggomobil.source 3 Beyond its engine, payload, speed and price, no specification has been found: no dimensions, no power and no photograph of a Bundespost Boy. Almost all of this rests on one source, German Wikipedia, which follows Matthias Pfannmüller’s history of the firm.

Pictures

More photographs, old and new

Variants

Three engines, two bodies

The Goggomobil TL, 1957–⁠65
VariantYearsWhat differsHow many
TL-2501957–⁠65The smallest engine, 245 or 247 cc, 13.6 or 14 hp; drivable on the old class 4 licenceNot split by engine
TL-3001957–⁠65296 cc (293 cc in English Wikipedia), 15 hpNot split by engine
TL-4001957–⁠65392 to 398 cc, 18.5 or 20 hp; used in later vans with lower gearingNot split by engine
Van (Kastenwagen)1957–⁠65Closed body, sliding cab doors and twin rear doorsMost of them; about 2,000 in Bundespost yellow
Pick-up (Pritschenwagen)1957–⁠65Open bed with a tailgate, a tarpaulin or a short canopyA small share, by RM Auctions

Specification

From Secret Classics and the two Wikipedias; chassis details from the saloon

Engine and drive

Engine and drive
EngineGlas vertical two-stroke twin, cooled by a fan, mounted across the tailsource 1source 4
CapacityTL-250 245 cc; TL-300 296 cc; TL-400 395 ccsource 6247 cc and 398 cc in RM Auctions’ catalogue; 293 cc and 392 cc in English Wikipedia
Power13.6 hp (9.9 kW), 15 hp (11 kW) and 18.5 hp (13.5 kW)source 6RM Auctions gives 14 hp for the TL-250 and 20 hp for the TL-400
Torque21, 23 and 32 Nmsource 6
GearboxFour speeds, unsynchronised, with lower (“L”) gearing than the saloon’s; an electric preselector was mentioned for itsource 3source 6
DriveTo the rear wheelssource 1source 2

Body and chassis

Body and chassis
BodiesVan with two sliding cab doors and twin rear doors; pick-up with a tailgatesource 6source 2source 9
Load floorWooden slats, with the fuel tank under the driver’s seatsource 3
SuspensionSwing axles front and rear, with coil springs, as on the saloonsource 1
BrakesHydraulic drums all round, as on the saloonsource 1
Wheels10-inchsource 4source 9

Dimensions

Dimensions
Length2,910 mmsource 2RM Auctions gives 9 ft 7 in on one lot and 9 ft 6.5 in on others
Width1,316 mmsource 2
Height1,695 mmsource 2
Wheelbase1,800 mmsource 6
Weight460 kg, kerbsource 6

Performance and running

Performance and running
Top speed65 km/h (40 mph) for the TL-250 to 75 km/h (47 mph) for the TL-400source 6
Payload440 kg by Secret Classics; about 250 kg (550 lb) and 1.6 m³ (57 cu ft) by RM Auctionssource 6source 3Not resolved; the sources disagree
Price newNot found

How many were built?

Every figure, with its source

3,667 built3,667 is the figure in German Wikipedia’s totals line, in Secret Classics and in English Wikipedia. It is part of a total for all Goggomobils that adds up, so we prefer it to the 3,665 found elsewhere.

  1. 3,667all TLs, 1957–⁠65Two sources agree

    German Wikipedia’s totals line; Secret Classics; English Wikipediasource 1source 6source 2

  2. 3,665all TLs, 1957–⁠65Two sources agree

    German Wikipedia’s text; RM Auctions’ catalogue, 2013source 1source 3

  3. about 2,000vans for the Bundespost; more than 2,000 between October 1957 and November 1965, by English WikipediaTwo sources agree

    German and English Wikipediasource 1source 2

  4. more than 1,500vans bought by tradespeople and townsOne source

    RM Auctions’ catalogue, 2013source 9

  • Two sources agreetwo good sources give the figure
  • One sourcea good source, alone
  • Unconfirmeda lead only, not yet checked

Famous for

Three points

  1. Post-office yellow

    About 2,000 went to the Bundespost, which needed a small van to replace its three-wheeled Tempos.

  2. Sliding doors

    Chosen so the driver could get out in narrow streets and tight spaces, which was new on so small a van.

  3. The rare Goggomobil

    3,667 were built, against more than 280,000 Goggomobils in all.

Survivors and collecting

Today

No count of surviving TLs has been found. They are the Goggomobils that collectors chase, and the Bruce Weiner Microcar Museum restored four in bright advertising liveries, applied by its restorers and not necessarily ones the vans wore: PEZ, Coca-Cola, Dubble Bubble and Krispy Kreme. When RM Auctions sold the museum’s collection in Madison, Georgia, in February 2013, they made between $92,000 and $172,500.source 4source 9source 3source 5 In October 2020 RM Sotheby’s offered another without reserve; the result has not been found.source 6

The GLAS Automobil Club International and the Goggo- und Glasfahrer Gemeinschaft in Dingolfing look after the Glas cars.source 1 A Bundespost van was photographed at Heusenstamm in 2011, and another in Berlin in 2020.

At auction, RM Auctions, February 2013
VanLotPrice
1958 TL-400 Transporter “PEZ”Lot 613source 4$172,500
1959 TL-400 pick-up “Coca-Cola”Lot 297source 9$138,000
TL-250 Transporter “Dubble Bubble”, catalogued as 1958Lot 563source 3$132,250
1963 TL-250 Transporter “Krispy Kreme”Lot 269source 5$92,000

Sources

Numbered as in the text

No period road test of the TL has been found, and much of the detail comes from RM Auctions’ catalogue of 2013 and a single enthusiast site, Secret Classics. The two auto motor und sport reports are cited from the Goggomobil saloon’s sources. Sources are given as plain text; the links are on the Credits page.

  1. German Wikipedia, Goggomobil, read in full: the Transporter paragraph, the totals line and the saloon’s technical details.
  2. English Wikipedia, Goggomobil, the Transporter section and specification box, which cite the GLAS Automobil Club International.
  3. RM Auctions, Bruce Weiner Microcar Museum sale, Madison, Georgia, February 2013, lot 563, “1958 Goggomobil TL-250 Transporter ‘Dubble Bubble’”.
  4. RM Auctions, Weiner museum sale, February 2013, lot 613, “1958 Goggomobil TL-400 Transporter ‘PEZ’”.
  5. RM Auctions, Weiner museum sale, February 2013, lot 269, “1963 Goggomobil TL-250 Transporter ‘Krispy Kreme’”.
  6. Secret Classics, “Glas Goggomobil TL-250”.
  7. auto motor und sport 22/1956, report on the IFMA show in Frankfurt.
  8. “Goggomobil-Transporter in Serie”, news item, auto motor und sport 4/1958.
  9. RM Auctions, Weiner museum sale, February 2013, lot 297, “1959 Goggomobil TL-400 Transporter Pickup ‘Coca-Cola’”.
  10. German Wikipedia, Vidal & Sohn Tempo-Werk, the sections on the Hanseat and the Boy and the model table of 1949–⁠66. Its general source is Matthias Pfannmüller, Mit Tempo durch die Zeit (Delius Klasing, 2006), and it cites ATZ 7/1952.